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The physically less than perfect hero

April 23rd, 2012 (08:26 am)

Am sharing some thoughts about him (and struggling to find examples) here. Do share your thoughts here or there.

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Posted by: anteros_lmc (anteros_lmc )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 08:37 am (UTC)
Glenlee mainmast

*cough* Nelson ;)

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 12:33 pm (UTC)

Good thinking, but he doesn't quite count as I was looking for fictional examples. :)

Posted by: idler_1814 (idler_1814 )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 03:35 pm (UTC)

Bush, then? Heroic, definitely. Romantic? Not so much...at least to CSF. Others may beg to differ.

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 03:53 pm (UTC)
jonny

*nods* Although Bush didn't count for my list because he didn't start off without his injury (and isn't technically a romantic lead except in our heads? On the other hand...)

Posted by: idler_1814 (idler_1814 )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 04:23 pm (UTC)

Oh, all true: I'm grasping at straws, I suppose.

You have a good point, though, in your original post: it is difficult to find literature (in any genre) in which a person with a disability is treated as a person first, with their disability a secondary matter yet portrayed honestly and realistically. It shapes one's personality--no question there--but in no way consumes it.

I applaud you for your work!

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 08:16 pm (UTC)


Interesting that I've had several people pointing out examples of romantic leads with a disability (both here and at original post) which I'd forgotten about. But they're few and far between and rarely in the mainstream.

Will have to do another post exploring the examples!

Posted by: anteros_lmc (anteros_lmc )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 08:41 pm (UTC)
Glenlee shrouds quarterdeck

ROFL! I love the idea of discounting Nelson for being non-fictional! XD

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 24th, 2012 09:01 am (UTC)

And, to be absolutely picky, he acquired his injuries rather than being born with them. *pedantic hugs*

BTW I hope you're not goping to get a flasher's mac like that sailor. Very disturbing.

Posted by: anteros_lmc (anteros_lmc )
Posted at: April 26th, 2012 08:43 pm (UTC)
JB hip

I hope you're not goping to get a flasher's mac like that sailor. Very disturbing.
Disturbing? I'll tell you what's disturbing....James Callis and Kerry Norton on twitter talking about making a Carry On film and discussing whether her hubby should be Charles Hawtrey or Bernard Breslaw!!

Posted by: JL Merrow (jl_merrow )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 09:00 am (UTC)

As I'm losing faith in my comment ever showing up there, I'll copy it in here :)

Heh, where to stop? Chris in my Permanently Legless is, well - do I have to spell it out? Will in Wight Mischief is deaf in one ear and has a dodgy shoulder that cut short his hopes of Olympic swimming glory. Matthew in Dulce et Decorum Est lost an arm in WW1. Colin in Sense Memory, in the Diary of a Love Brother anthology, is blind.

Jo Myles has a short story with a romantic lead who's profoundly deaf, in Under the Desert Sky, and her latest novel, the fantastic Handle with Care, has a hero on dialysis.

I tend to prefer writing about guys who aren't society's idea of perfect - you won't find too many six-foot-plus male models in my work! ;)

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 12:41 pm (UTC)

This proves my senility. How I could have forgotten Chris astounds me. As for the others I can only plead that I am years behind with my reading. Thank you for the examples - I'm doing another blog or two along these lines and will use them to illustrate the point!

Posted by: eglantine_br (eglantine_br )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 11:47 am (UTC)

Well, Archie of course has a seizure disorder. I think that counts as physical. It manifests as such.

In fact, I cannot think of any other fictional portrayal of a sexy, capable, smart, funny epileptic. It is another reason that Archie is dear to my heart.

I know JB said that people had thanked him for it.

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 12:35 pm (UTC)

What a brilliant example - and, of course, Archie's the ultimate romantic hero.

Posted by: anteros_lmc (anteros_lmc )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
Archie dd regrets

YES! eglantine_br gets my vote!!

Posted by: Gehayi (gehayi )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 01:43 pm (UTC)
oracle (stacyx)

I can think of a few:

Barbara Gordon (a.k.a. Oracle, a.k.a. the woman in my icon) -- paraplegic super-hacker and leader of the superhero team Birds of Prey.

Matt Murdock (a.k.a. Daredevil) -- blind superhero.

Geordie LaForge (Star Trek: The Next Generation)

Toph Bei Fong (Avatar: The Last Airbender) -- a blunt, blind-from-birth twelve-year-old who's socially awkward thanks to years of isolation because her overprotective parents kept her away from...well, the world. Did I mention that she's a master earthbender and that she invented a whole new form of martial arts?

Tyrion Lannister (A Song of Ice and Fire/ A Game of Thrones)-- dwarfism

Titus Andronicus -- missing a hand

Will Parry (His Dark Materials) -- missing two fingers

Joe Dawson (Highlander: the Series) -- double amputee with artificial legs (and played by a double amputee, too)

Luke Skywalker -- missing a hand

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower series) -- double amputee, uses wheelchair

Tyr (Norse mythology) -- missing a hand

Peeta Mellark (The Hunger Games trilogy) -- missing a leg

Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist) -- missing an arm and a leg; uses metal replacements called "automail"

Beren (Silmarillion) -- missing a hand

Professor Charles Xavier -- paralyzed, confined to a wheelchair

Bran Stark (A Song of Ice and Fire) -- paralyzed from the waist down

And here's a whole slew of characters in romances who are disabled:

http://www.likesbooks.com/disabled.html

And I haven't even gotten into characters with neurological or psychological disorders.






Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 01:47 pm (UTC)

Ooh, thank you. I had discounted Beren and the like as he lost his hand during the story and Xavier isn't a romantic lead - but some of the others I hadn't heard of or remembered.

Posted by: Gehayi (gehayi )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 01:49 pm (UTC)

Well, you didn't specify romantic leads. You asked for heroes. I presumed that you wanted either protagonists or heroic characters.

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 01:52 pm (UTC)

I think I did ask for romantic leads remind me of other romantic leads who start out with physical disabilities or the like. but I'll take the superheroes!

Posted by: grace_roberts (jessie_lansdel )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 03:18 pm (UTC)

Erica James has written a couple of her male romantic characters with disabilities. One is deaf (Paradise House) and another has MS. (can't remember the title of that one) Not bad books but when the males are talking amongst themselves the dialogue is pretty dire. They sound like a female author trying (and failing) to sound like a bloke.

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 23rd, 2012 03:52 pm (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm going to rush to read them, then... :)

Posted by: Stevie Carroll (stevie_carroll )
Posted at: April 24th, 2012 06:01 am (UTC)

A topic very close to my heart.

I've written a romance between a blind hero and a deaf heroine.

I also have a hero who loses an arm in one of his possible futures (and has potentially ongoing problems in the other scenarios), but I'm not sure whether that one counts.

Most of my characters with disabilities are in my WiPs, which probably means I need to get back to writing those.

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 24th, 2012 09:02 am (UTC)

Is that blind hero story in your upcoming book or is it one I've missed? A link to it would be useful as I'm going to do a follow up blog or two featuring these sort of stories.

*mwah*

Posted by: Stevie Carroll (stevie_carroll )
Posted at: April 25th, 2012 05:44 am (UTC)
Echoes of Possibilities Cover

It was my story, 'The Monitors', in the Noble Romance Anthology, Echoes of Possibilities.

Short story collection now up on Kickstarter for pre-orders, though.

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 25th, 2012 11:27 am (UTC)

*heads desk* Of course. I think I am dumber than dumb this week.

I am going to get myself the story collection as my jury service treat!

Posted by: Stevie Carroll (stevie_carroll )
Posted at: April 25th, 2012 07:26 pm (UTC)
Brig -- Good Show by sallymn

Yay!

Did you see that I have a Kickstarter thing now?

Posted by: charliecochrane (charliecochrane )
Posted at: April 25th, 2012 07:46 pm (UTC)

I did. (I bought the recent Matt Alber CD in a similar scheme.)

Just have to wait for May and next batch of spare cash...

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